Comments on: Time to Walk the Walk /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/ But I fear more for Muninn... Thu, 16 May 2013 14:30:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 By: Stian Håklev /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-211039 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 05:02:32 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-211039 I absolutely support you. I’ve done something similar here: http://reganmian.net/blog/publications-and-presentations/. I also experimented with releasing my MA thesis not just OA, but in a variety of formats (PDF is so old skool): http://reganmian.net/top-level-courses.

I know exactly what you mean by closed. I actually wrote to the professors at University of Oslo who have created a Norwegian-Chinese dictionary. They got millions of kroner from the Norwegian government to do this, and the books cost 1000 NOK (about $180 USD) to buy, and are gigantic… Of course, they’ve only sold a handful (I got one as a gift, but never use it). If I could get the electronic database, I would use it a lot… If I could get the database in an open format, I could do all kinds of amazing useful things with it. I asked them directly if they would be willing to release it, and they declined. Sad. But we have to keep pushing :)

Stian

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By: PREMODERN? /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-165043 Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:01:25 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-165043 I applaud your rebellion against the paranoid attitude one finds particularly in E. Asian history. Literature people like to laugh because since they have 20000 people who have written on Shakespeare, the idea of one scholarone event/phenomenon/historical person ratio is ridiculous.

Having said that, some cynical people will read your research page as an attempt to stake ground and establish precedence. It’s sad, but probably true.

E. Asian studies–speaking broadly– is undergoing a transformation now; the people that you find most hostile to your open attitude will likely be senior scholars, who are used to have several centuries by themselves.

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By: Arne /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-163066 Thu, 06 May 2010 18:45:15 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-163066 Way to go! You know I’m very much an “open everything” advocate. How much could we all benefit when energy is no longer wasted keeping things hidden from each other, a strategy that will always fail at some point. Not to mention how much more progress would be made with sources more available, instantly, digitally and easy to find.

I know a big part of academics don’t subscribe to that paradigm, but openness is here to stay, consider yourself a small part of history in the making.

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By: Carleen /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-162876 Mon, 03 May 2010 14:44:06 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-162876 Right on! Don’t loose heart, their are plenty of other scholars out there who feel the way you do and I think there are plenty of open access movements out there gaining some ground (for instance, I just found out about ScholarWorks, example http://scholarworks.umass.edu/).

Please forgive the rather simple comparison but I just had to say that this whole mentality reminds me of a friend I went to high school with who would refuse to tell me where she got her awesome DocMarten like boots. She said she didn’t want me going out and buying the same pair because she wanted to be the only one in school that had them. She was pretty fierce about guarding her misfit persona.

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By: Muninn /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-162767 Sat, 01 May 2010 16:32:20 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-162767 Thanks to everyone for the kind words and also to Javier for sharing his frustrations with source sharing – I have similar anecdotes to tell (also good luck to Javier on his comprehensive exams next week).

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By: Sunkyoung /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-162763 Sat, 01 May 2010 15:24:12 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-162763 I just read your newly created ‘research’ page before coming to read this post, which I’m really glad about. I support your open access-ism and do keep the faith, Mitchy.

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By: Javier Cha /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-162498 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:46:55 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-162498 I’ve also noticed this bizarre turn toward antiquarianism in historical fields of East Asia. I think this partly has to do with the cultural turn. I am a cultural historian myself and I have seen many superb works of cultural history, but I have to admit that it is difficult to evaluate a work that purports to analyze the symbolic system of a society unfamiliar to us on the basis of a shared, relatively impartial standard.

This propels the cultural historians to develop a love for episodes from the past that are shocking and unique. And if you discovered a story that nobody else had unearthed before, you build your entire monograph or career plan on the basis of the novelty of having ‘discovered’ something.

I have a friend in Columbia who reads the same kind of sources as I do. The bulk of our dissertation research surrounds the experience of Koryo intellectuals under Mongol rule. But we ask different questions and place our analysis in different types of framework. We always share our discoveries with each other and will continue to do so.

What I find disturbing is that on several occasions, I was told not to openly share sources that supposedly nobody else looked at. Not only do I find that unethical, it doesn’t make any sense. The South Korean scholars have unearthed just about every textual source we can think of for the medieval period and have written so many studies already. History is about asking meaningful questions, not antiquarian retelling of stories patched together from disjointed sequence of events, and is about pursuing those meaningful questions with rigor.

Okay, enough rant for today. I hope to chat about this more with you after my exam next week!

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By: Matthew /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-162485 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:10:57 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-162485 I applaud you for standing up for what you believe in. Although it may not make waves in the academic world and change how things are done, you still are setting an example by standing firm on something that ultimately is both admirable and borderline ethical. Keep up the great work!

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By: Kellen Parker /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-162480 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:24:03 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-162480 I admire the openness and hope it doesn’t hurt your options in the future. I admit I’ve been guilty of trying to keep my sources secret or somehow limited, but fortunately when I’ve realised this is the case I try to break myself of it immediately.

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By: Derek /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-162476 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:51:28 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-162476 I think the choice of openness is very admirable. In the end, it will be the quality of your work that stands out over everything else. Since I’ll be working in industry for at least the next few years I won’t have the option of being so open, but the specific research position I have accepted was on the condition that I am allowed to publish research in peer-reviewed journals. And I hope to some day return to academia where I can also have more of an open policy towards information.

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By: Sayaka /blog/2010/04/time-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-162446 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:50:46 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/?p=838#comment-162446 YAY!!!
I love that! It’ll benefit you eventually. I really believe so.

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