Comments on: Japanese People Discovering Themselves /blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves/ But I fear more for Muninn... Thu, 16 May 2013 14:30:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 By: Rosie Summerton /blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-10444 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:17:50 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves.html#comment-10444 Hi Earl, you may not remember me but my Name is Rosie formerly Dow, Mitzi’s friend who is now in Scotland. It’s funny to accross you after all this time, I’m sure you will hardly remember me as I was just a kid when I knew you. I remember the big slide in the back garden and the archery. Anyway hope everything is going well for you. Rosie

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By: Frog in a Well - The Japan History Group Blog /blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-7830 Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:09:44 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves.html#comment-7830 […] Last year I wrote an article entitled Losing the Soul of Japan which was posted on the excellent weblog Chanpon. In the article I made some comments on the topic of nostalgia in Japan for an authentic Japanese culture. This has been widely written about (perhaps the most important work on this in English is Marilyn Ivy’s Discourses of the Vanishing) but my own motivation in this earlier article was to explore the use of foreigners in campaigns to create a sense of shame amongst Japanese over the loss of their own “pure” selves. I added more thoughts on this topic in another posting here. As a student of Japanese history, I think this phenomena is an especially useful portal through which to approach the far more complex and powerful images of cultural loss, nostalgia, and authenticity which inform the ideologies of nationalism prominent during Japan’s imperial age. […]

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By: Matt /blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-252 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves.html#comment-252 Lots of people (including myself, I have to admit. Jazz Age!) are fascinated by the past because most of the surviving records and imagery focus on the richest, most privileged people of the time, who had enough to eat, servants to clean their filthy toilets, a smaller chance of dying of grotesque diseases, etc. The absolute best 10% of any age, however crapy at the time, looks better than the 100% of now we’re already frustrated with.

On another note, Japanese culture definitely has a higher tolerance for schmaltz than I was accustomed to before coming here. I’ve read people who claim that this derives from the classical poetry tradition, where poets searching for the best single image would too often “cheat” by using a pre-loaded word like “dream” or “wind”, but I don’t think that can be entirely it — if only because the poets who get the most respect (Basho, etc.) are exactly the ones who intentionally avoided this trap.

Although, I guess if you think about the Lifetime channel, Oprah, Neighbours, etc., every country has wildly popular schmaltz. Maybe it’s just that in our home cultures we’re able to find the alternatives more easily.

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By: Earl Hartman /blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-253 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves.html#comment-253 My wife, who is Japanese, said she found “The Last Samurai” not as bad as a movie made about Japan by Americans for an American audience could have been. In general, I agree. Stil, I thought it was pretty stupid, but, then, I hate Tom Cruise.

I wanted to see it just to see how egregiously they would get everything wrong and just how hackneyed it would be. While it was not as profoundly silly as other similar efforts (“Shogun” springs immediately to mind) the cherry blossoms being blown away by the wind as Katsumoto was dying, among other Japanesque cliches with whch the movie was riddled, did not disappoint.

It is interesting that the movie is popular in Japan. This is baffling until you realize that the Japanese often have a pathetic need to be approved of by gaijin. A foreigner coming to learn about Japan is proof to the Japanese that their culture has worth. Thus, all of these posters and commercials about foreigners who, spending a few years in Japan learning ikebana, somehow know more about the “true” Japan than people native to the place.

So, not only did a major American star of the stature of Tom Cruise think it was worth making a movie about the glories of Yamato Damashii, his character in the film, realizing the spiritual wasteland that is Western “culture” decides at the end to make his home in The Land of Wa, the repository of all truth, goodness and beauty. What Japanese would not swoon over this thinly disguised “Wareware Nipponjin Ron” message? And made by a famous American, yet! What could be better?

Earl Hartman

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By: Earl Hartman /blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-254 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/07/japanese-people-discovering-themselves.html#comment-254 My wife, who is Japanese, said she found “The Last Samurai” not as bad as a movie made about Japan by Americans for an American audience could have been. In general, I agree. Stil, I thought it was pretty stupid, but, then, I hate Tom Cruise.

I wanted to see it just to see how egregiously they would get everything wrong and just how hackneyed it would be. While it was not as profoundly silly as other similar efforts (“Shogun” springs immediately to mind) the cherry blossoms being blown away by the wind as Katsumoto was dying, among other Japanesque cliches with whch the movie was riddled, did not disappoint.

It is interesting that the movie is popular in Japan. This is baffling until you realize that the Japanese often have a pathetic need to be approved of by gaijin. A foreigner coming to learn about Japan is proof to the Japanese that their culture has worth. Thus, all of these posters and commercials about foreigners who, spending a few years in Japan learning ikebana, somehow know more about the “true” Japan than people native to the place.

So, not only did a major American star of the stature of Tom Cruise think it was worth making a movie about the glories of Yamato Damashii, his character in the film, realizing the spiritual wasteland that is Western “culture” decides at the end to make his home in The Land of Wa, the repository of all truth, goodness and beauty. What Japanese would not swoon over this thinly disguised “Wareware Nipponjin Ron” message? And made by a famous American, yet! What could be better?

Earl Hartman

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