Comments on: Tale of a Norwegian Soldier /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/ But I fear more for Muninn... Thu, 16 May 2013 14:30:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 By: Leif Arne /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-101934 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:29:09 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-101934 Very interesting material! Sverre is my great-uncle. We have tried to locate where he’s buried, but it is impossible..

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By: Muninn /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-9915 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:24:32 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-9915 Here are some links from online:
http://home.online.no/~ol-enge/art02/03-4Frontkjemper.htm
http://home.hib.no/mediesenter/digOkku/Stalin/frontlinks.htm
http://www.media.uio.no/forskning/prosjekter/1945/artikler/Frontkjemperne.pdf (the author of this has recently published on this in Norway)
http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikker/article1107756.ece (Aftenposten article on the fate of them)

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By: Muninn /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-9913 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:41:51 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-9913 Hi there, I’m afraid I don’t know any English materials.

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By: Jan Puzulis /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-9912 Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:20:21 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-9912 Hi ! I am interested to know if there is a source, preferably in English, that deals with the trials of the Norwegian Legionnairs?
Norwegian online would also be o.k. Thanks, JP

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By: Muninn /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-7867 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:52:29 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-7867 Thanks for the comment Baard. I’m back in Norway as of this week and I’ll be spending the next month reading more about the wartime period and the immediate aftermath of war. Hope to have more to write about this topic soon…I’m still a beginner when it comes to Norwegian history.

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By: Baard /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-7864 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:30:37 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-7864 Glenn, as already pointed out, Milorg/Hjemmefronten was no real fighting force that took part in major violent operations or partisan resistance fighting.

The Norwegian SS-volunteers, however, took part in regular German army large-scale operations and saw fighting at a “professional” and brutal level, completely incomparable to the halfhearted and hopeless disorganised resistance offered by the Norwegian regular army when opposing the invading Germans.

Point is, the Norwegians who participated in total war as experienced on the Continent were mainly those fighting for Hitler.

Not exactly what they teach us in school, yet so it was.

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By: Glenn F. Henriksen /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-205 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-205 Organized resistance in Norway was not really crushed, but organized in something called Milorg at about 1940. Milorg was recognized by the exilegoverment in London in 1941. Milorg also cooperated with the british Special Operation Executive. In 1942 there were 20.000 members of Milorg and they ran 3 radiostations.

Most of Milorg’s work was concentrated around military intelligence. Military operations such as sabotage were expressivly forbidden. They were thought to have too little strategic effect compared to the costs.

In 1942 they Gestapo made progress against Milorg and thousands of people were arrested. But they recovered and in 1943 there were 30.000 members.

The allied forces had during the war discuraged sabotage but they changed their mind after the invasion in Normandie after seeing the contributions of the French resistance.

In 1944 the ban on military operations were lifted and Milorg got the order to stop the Germans as much as possible in their retreat back to the continent. In late 1944/45 equipment for 30 – 40.000 troops were airdropped over Norway and 200 instructors were flown in.

A number of operations were executed, mainly against roads, bridges and railroads.

In May 1945 Milorg took control over key points in Norway, such as harbours, communications, etc to stop sabotage from the retrating troops. They took public building and made way for the return of the goverment.

A few days later when the allied forces arrived Norway would mostly appear to be a nation in peace with Milorg troops patroling and upholding law and order. About 40.000 Milorg troops took part in retaking Norway.

There were also other fractions, such as The Linge Company and some communist groups that did not see themselves bound by the ban on sabotage and performed some actions. These were, however, limited in scope.

As for what your post really was about, the norwegians that joined the German forces:

As I have read they did that mainly to fight communism. Communism was seen as a great danger by many at that time.

After the war “frontkjemperene” (“The Front fighters”) were given sentences on several years by the courts. They were convicted on treason and most trials took a few hours, at the most a day. Several was sentenced to life imprisonment but the longest time served was 11 years.

http://www.utal.net is a site that is about the Norwegian front fighters.

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By: Kerim Friedman /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-206 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-206 You might enjoy reading the novel reviewed in this NYRB article. Unfortunately the review isn’t available for free online. It describes a novel about an SS officer who is also a professor of History, and writes letters back home about his experiences. These letters take the form of a dialog with the entire history of Western philosophy up to that time. Sounds amazing. (The review itself is written by one of my favorite NYRB reviewers, the poet Charles Simic.)

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By: Kerim Friedman /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-207 Sorry, no HTML I guess. Here is the

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/article-preview?article_id=17215

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By: Kmlawson /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-208 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-208 Hey Glenn, you are right, I should have mentioned the “hjemmefront” and Milorg movement but we should be honest to what the movement really amounted to. The British SOE was apparently conducting sabotage operations on Norwegian soil from 1940 but often without even letting the hjemmefronten know. However, as you hint in your discussion, until very late in the war, Milorg was a strictly pacifist organization (albeit one doing military training with weapons) that was terrified that any violent acts would lead to German reprisals against Norwegian citizens (which, of course, was happening all over occupied Europe).

According to Alnæs, as late as October 1942, they did not even permit the killing of any German soldiers EVEN IN SELF-DEFENSE.

For example, the leadership of Milorg sent a telegram to the authorities in London 14th of October which said, “Vennligst instuer folk dere sender hit, for eksempel våpeninstruktrører, om de ikke må drepe tyskere, selv ikke i selvforsvar, da dette ville lede til represalier her. Vi følger selv denne linje, f.eks. ved eksport.”

When some communist partisans or others in Norway killed some Germans, Milorg had a fit and sometimes apparently blamed the British, sending complaints to London. For example, October 1943 a troop transport was blown up between Drammen and Hokksund, and several Germans were killed. Milorg condemned the “use of such methods” The Germans arrested some people, executed five.

Things got more violent later on, but from what I have read so far, Milorg isn’t exactly a sterling example of an armed resistance, even if they played an important role in various ways.

Anyways, my point is not to belittle the Norwegian resistance, even if I suspect that Norway, like most European countries, often spends a disproportionate amount of time glorifying what were sometimes marginal resistance efforts in periods of occupation that were broadly tolerated, if reluctantly so.

As for fighting communism, you are again right, Bolshevists were the “dark forces” that Sverre is referring to (which I removed in the … of his quote for effect). The thing is, Bolshevism and Communist has always been the boogie man of fascist movements and the Eastern front was the only important front during the time of the major recruiting in Norway. Especially in Europe, where you could not, like the Japanese and Chinese, argue that White imperialism was the enemy, Communism and the Red peril was, next to the specter of evil Jews, the easiest enemy to use in your propaganda (of course, a Jewish lead Communist movement made for the best bogie man).

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By: Kmlawson /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-209 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-209 Kerim, looks very interesting, I think I’ll have to get that!

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By: Siri /blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier/comment-page-1/#comment-210 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://muninn.net/blog/2004/06/tale-of-a-norwegian-soldier.html#comment-210 Interestingly, as far as I understand, communism got quite a foothold in Norway right after the war. I can’t remember off the top of my head how widespread it became (and for how long), but I would imagine its poularity (especially in the north) had something to do with the Russians invading and forcing the Germans out, thereby appearing like heroes and saviours in the eyes of the population.

Siri

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