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	<title>Comments on: Seodaemun Prison Museum</title>
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		<title>By: Nida Plahs</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-244633</link>
		<dc:creator>Nida Plahs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Seoul Tour - Jonathan Jamieson</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-238127</link>
		<dc:creator>Seoul Tour - Jonathan Jamieson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what happened after the Japanese left in 1945. The atrocities didn&#8217;t suddenly stop. There was no mention of what Korean&#8217;s did to other Koreans in the post war [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what happened after the Japanese left in 1945. The atrocities didn&#8217;t suddenly stop. There was no mention of what Korean&#8217;s did to other Koreans in the post war [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jerald Peeler</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-162201</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerald Peeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now THAT IS what I deem an insightful take on things. What I would advise though is talking to other people actively involved in the scene and bring to light any conflicting points of view and then update your site or create a new post for us to stew over. Hopefully you&#039;ll take my advice, I&#039;m looking forward to it! Try to cover off on some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tStColZ8caA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;graffiti characters&lt;/a&gt; as well if possible, they&#039;re quite popular at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now THAT IS what I deem an insightful take on things. What I would advise though is talking to other people actively involved in the scene and bring to light any conflicting points of view and then update your site or create a new post for us to stew over. Hopefully you&#8217;ll take my advice, I&#8217;m looking forward to it! Try to cover off on some <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tStColZ8caA" rel="nofollow">graffiti characters</a> as well if possible, they&#8217;re quite popular at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Muninn</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-113650</link>
		<dc:creator>Muninn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, I think you have got your facts just a tad exaggerated but certainly there is no doubt the Japanese wanted to &quot;colonize&quot; the Koreans. That often happens in colonies, I&#039;m afraid. 

I have confirmed that Seodaemun continued long after the colonial period, was the site of more torture, more executions, and was far more crowded with prisoners after 1945 than before. I have come across several newspaper articles from the early postwar period decrying the horrible conditions in the prison. Most of the prisoners were not regular criminals, and I don&#039;t know the statistics for the Japanese colonial period, but suspected leftists.

There are unique problems to imperialism that are worth discussing, but I think that if the museum wants to talk about the institution&#039;s history of torture and death - tell the whole story that includes the horrors of the postwar period. No one has killed more Koreans in the 20th century than the Koreans and that should be studied side by side and with great care alongside the darker aspects of colonial rule by the Japanese. Oh wait, how could I forget, I guess the US probably killed the most in their bombing campaigns.

The full history of the horrors and evolution of Seodaemun Prison is a PhD thesis waiting to be written...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, I think you have got your facts just a tad exaggerated but certainly there is no doubt the Japanese wanted to &#8220;colonize&#8221; the Koreans. That often happens in colonies, I&#8217;m afraid. </p>
<p>I have confirmed that Seodaemun continued long after the colonial period, was the site of more torture, more executions, and was far more crowded with prisoners after 1945 than before. I have come across several newspaper articles from the early postwar period decrying the horrible conditions in the prison. Most of the prisoners were not regular criminals, and I don&#8217;t know the statistics for the Japanese colonial period, but suspected leftists.</p>
<p>There are unique problems to imperialism that are worth discussing, but I think that if the museum wants to talk about the institution&#8217;s history of torture and death &#8211; tell the whole story that includes the horrors of the postwar period. No one has killed more Koreans in the 20th century than the Koreans and that should be studied side by side and with great care alongside the darker aspects of colonial rule by the Japanese. Oh wait, how could I forget, I guess the US probably killed the most in their bombing campaigns.</p>
<p>The full history of the horrors and evolution of Seodaemun Prison is a PhD thesis waiting to be written&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sharon</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-49309</link>
		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the huge difference between the japanese keeping korean catives here and the koreans keeping captives here is reason. the reason the japanese captured koreans were to colonize them. any koreans who refused to submit to learning japanese language and taking japanese last names and what not were captured and tortured. where as the koreans who captured koreans were people who commited crimes, etc. also the museum doesn&#039;t write of some of the things japanese did to koreans outside the prison while trying to colonize it. this includes slicing people open while still alive to learn about the body. and trying different drugs and medications and using koreans as labrats. thats one of the reasons they were so good at torture and curing -- due to these experimentations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the huge difference between the japanese keeping korean catives here and the koreans keeping captives here is reason. the reason the japanese captured koreans were to colonize them. any koreans who refused to submit to learning japanese language and taking japanese last names and what not were captured and tortured. where as the koreans who captured koreans were people who commited crimes, etc. also the museum doesn&#8217;t write of some of the things japanese did to koreans outside the prison while trying to colonize it. this includes slicing people open while still alive to learn about the body. and trying different drugs and medications and using koreans as labrats. thats one of the reasons they were so good at torture and curing &#8212; due to these experimentations.</p>
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		<title>By: Frog in a Well - The Korea History Group Blog</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-13526</link>
		<dc:creator>Frog in a Well - The Korea History Group Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 23:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is surely not a problem unique to the folk village. I could easily write a similar article about the folk village I have visited in Olso, Norway and in various places in Japan. The problem I think comes from the conflicting goals of wanting to celebrate the rich culture of the past (a matter of national pride) and preserve accurate or &#8220;authentic&#8221; representations of that culture. Presentation and message is all important, no less for the folk village than for museums such as Sŏdaemun prison. What to include or exclude; what to emphasize and what to present without comment - these questions as important to the design of these museums and cultural displays as they are for the writing of any historical work. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is surely not a problem unique to the folk village. I could easily write a similar article about the folk village I have visited in Olso, Norway and in various places in Japan. The problem I think comes from the conflicting goals of wanting to celebrate the rich culture of the past (a matter of national pride) and preserve accurate or &#8220;authentic&#8221; representations of that culture. Presentation and message is all important, no less for the folk village than for museums such as Sŏdaemun prison. What to include or exclude; what to emphasize and what to present without comment &#8211; these questions as important to the design of these museums and cultural displays as they are for the writing of any historical work. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ash</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7673</link>
		<dc:creator>ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>凸 = tu in chinese. A &#039;bulge&#039; if you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>凸 = tu in chinese. A &#8216;bulge&#8217; if you will.</p>
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		<title>By: Muninn &#187; Korean Children&#8217;s Drawings</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7622</link>
		<dc:creator>Muninn &#187; Korean Children&#8217;s Drawings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] t want to check out here, and here. 	There simply can be no better follow up on my posting yesterday where I mention the large numbers of children at the prison museum that I a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] t want to check out here, and here. 	There simply can be no better follow up on my posting yesterday where I mention the large numbers of children at the prison museum that I a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: （´∀｀ ）</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7618</link>
		<dc:creator>（´∀｀ ）</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 01:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>楽しそうな博物館ですね。</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7566</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s a real kanji, but in this context it does mean the middle finger. You see it in emoticons like 凸(-.-)凸</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a real kanji, but in this context it does mean the middle finger. You see it in emoticons like 凸(-.-)凸</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7558</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, that symbol is a real kanji in Japanese, meaning convex, also in combination with something else to indicate unevenness in a surface. I knew about those, and in looking it up in my 国語 dictionary I also discovered it can mean the furrowing of the brow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that symbol is a real kanji in Japanese, meaning convex, also in combination with something else to indicate unevenness in a surface. I knew about those, and in looking it up in my 国語 dictionary I also discovered it can mean the furrowing of the brow.</p>
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		<title>By: Sayaka Chatani</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7557</link>
		<dc:creator>Sayaka Chatani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 03:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Being Japanese in Asia&lt;/strong&gt;

I am reading a book on Korea&#039;s modern history called &quot;Korea&#039;s Place In the Sun,&quot; written by Bruce Cumings. It is very well written, and made me realize how little I knew about Korea&#039;s history (except the annexation and occupation by Japan), which ...</description>
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<p>I am reading a book on Korea&#8217;s modern history called &#8220;Korea&#8217;s Place In the Sun,&#8221; written by Bruce Cumings. It is very well written, and made me realize how little I knew about Korea&#8217;s history (except the annexation and occupation by Japan), which &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kotaji</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7556</link>
		<dc:creator>Kotaji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... sounds like an ultra-nationalist version of the London Dungeon (very tacky tourist attraction, sort of like Madame Toussauds with added torture).

I lived a few minutes away from Sôdaemun Prison and always meant to go there but never did. Now I&#039;m quite glad.

Keep up the excellent Korean posts Muninn. (화이팅!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; sounds like an ultra-nationalist version of the London Dungeon (very tacky tourist attraction, sort of like Madame Toussauds with added torture).</p>
<p>I lived a few minutes away from Sôdaemun Prison and always meant to go there but never did. Now I&#8217;m quite glad.</p>
<p>Keep up the excellent Korean posts Muninn. (화이팅!)</p>
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		<title>By: Nomadism</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7554</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomadism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, It actually was a little bit obvious...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, It actually was a little bit obvious&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Muninn</title>
		<link>http://muninn.net/blog/2005/06/seodaemun-prison-museum.html/comment-page-1#comment-7553</link>
		<dc:creator>Muninn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! Figured it was something like that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! Figured it was something like that&#8230;</p>
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